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this is a critical question the ntsb is focusing on. were they talking to each other and distracted? was there some sort after cultural thing going on here where they were deferring to one or the other? all of that is going to be part of this investigation as they try to figure out why would four experienced pilots come in so slow, dangerously slow at stall speed, and right up to san francisco international airport a an approach that requires quite a bit of attention as you come in here, alex. >> tom, let me ask you because i think a lot of people are under the impression that in situations like this especially with landings and take-offs, the airplane's on-board computer systems kick in at a certain point if you are in danger and that did not seem to be the case with this flight. do we know why there wasn't sort of an automatic response to the plane flying too low and too slow? >> they were not -- yeah. they were not on auto pilot. they were flying manually. it was up to them to watch their air speed. now the stick shaker kicked in. th
this is a critical question the ntsb is focusing on. were they talking to each other and distracted? was there some sort after cultural thing going on here where they were deferring to one or the other? all of that is going to be part of this investigation as they try to figure out why would four experienced pilots come in so slow, dangerously slow at stall speed, and right up to san francisco international airport a an approach that requires quite a bit of attention as you come in here, alex....
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because the ntsb is saying that the air speed on this aircraft really fell dangerously low. generally you want to hit the end of that runway, you want to come in just like this united airlines flight is coming in right now. you want to come in at about 137 knots and notice that he is touching down almost where the remains of flight 214 are right now. they were coming in at 103 knots. not 137 knots. 103 was their lowest speed just seconds before they hit the end of the pier here. when they hit the sea barrier wall. so the question investigators are asking is, how could that happen? generally the co-pilot is supposed to be watching the air speed and the descent rate. the pilot is supposed to be watching the -- actually doing the flying. so was it one captain thinking the other was watching the airspeed and the other one thinking that the other one had it? there's some question about that. they're interviewing the crew in korean and english. they're trying to get some answers to that. there's another tragic twist to the whole story. that is as firefighters responded with a full
because the ntsb is saying that the air speed on this aircraft really fell dangerously low. generally you want to hit the end of that runway, you want to come in just like this united airlines flight is coming in right now. you want to come in at about 137 knots and notice that he is touching down almost where the remains of flight 214 are right now. they were coming in at 103 knots. not 137 knots. 103 was their lowest speed just seconds before they hit the end of the pier here. when they hit...
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>> this is an example where we really defer to the ntsb. they have an investigative process that they need to go through. they need to give us clearance. so we are going to defer to their process of investigation before we initiate efforts to reopen that final run way. yesterday all of the systems that were required were operability, operating under clear weather conditions and using visual flight rules and systems required for run way use were fully functional yesterday. everything that was required -- the faa determines what equipment is required to use the run ways under any given condition. in this situation all of the systems required were in use. i would say we have an ils system made up of a localizer and glide scope indicator. the glide scope indicator was not functional. neither of these items were required nor in use given yesterday's operations. >> were those operable yesterday. >> i don't have that information. >> would you say a seasoned pilot -- >> that's the primary method under yesterday's conditions. we did have augmenting
>> this is an example where we really defer to the ntsb. they have an investigative process that they need to go through. they need to give us clearance. so we are going to defer to their process of investigation before we initiate efforts to reopen that final run way. yesterday all of the systems that were required were operability, operating under clear weather conditions and using visual flight rules and systems required for run way use were fully functional yesterday. everything that...
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the ntsb does not identify victims. we leave that to the experts in the area, the coroner in this case of the county or the medical examiner in other jurisdictions. the ntsb does not do victim i.d. and we did not do it in this case. i expect we will be on scene for at least a week conducting evidence gathering, interviews and creating factual information. if need be we will be here longer. we tell people it takes 12 to 18 months to complete an investigation. however if we identify any safety issues that we think need immediate attention we have the ability to issue safety recommendations at any time. yes, sir. >> are there cameras on the run ways and are they always recording? have you seen that footage? >> i will defer to the airport officials. we have requests any footage recorded on the airport that would record the accident sequence or the after math of the accident. we found in past investigations that the video footage whether it is surveillance or security video or whether it is video provided by the public can b
the ntsb does not identify victims. we leave that to the experts in the area, the coroner in this case of the county or the medical examiner in other jurisdictions. the ntsb does not do victim i.d. and we did not do it in this case. i expect we will be on scene for at least a week conducting evidence gathering, interviews and creating factual information. if need be we will be here longer. we tell people it takes 12 to 18 months to complete an investigation. however if we identify any safety...
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the chairman of the ntsb, who is on the ground in san francisco, debby hersman joins me now. chairman, you've said this morning off lot of good information to start going through. describe what that is. >> well, we have a good number of survivors, and i think we're very thankful that the numbers were not worse when it came to fatalities and injuries. it could have been much worse. we have crew that survived that we can interview. and significantly, we have cockpit voice recorders and flight data recorders that have been recovered, went back on a red eye last night under federal escort to d.c. we hope to audition those in our headquarters in the next 24 hours. >> i know you have an opportunity with investigators to actually go through that burned-out fuselage. those pictures are dramatic of you, also the aftermath of this flight. the bit of information that you do have, no distress calls reportedly from the flight crew, and as tom costello mentioned reports from the airline that there was no engine trouble. i realize you can't make conclusions. what does that lead you to belie
the chairman of the ntsb, who is on the ground in san francisco, debby hersman joins me now. chairman, you've said this morning off lot of good information to start going through. describe what that is. >> well, we have a good number of survivors, and i think we're very thankful that the numbers were not worse when it came to fatalities and injuries. it could have been much worse. we have crew that survived that we can interview. and significantly, we have cockpit voice recorders and...
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the ntsb has been tweeting photos. they've been forthcoming with a lot of the information, with there information. it's just amazing that it wasn't a lot worse. >> i know. amazing it's not a lot worse. you hear these stories of people being on the ground for quite some time without emergency workers. >> yeah, that's -- i want to hear more about that. because that's not the story we got initially. my impression was it had been a pretty rapid and successful response by the first responders there in san francisco. 20 minutes. i mean, that -- can't have that. >> that is really something. al, you tonigdon't like flying. >> i don't. it's why we show these pictures. we got to remind en, especially my two older boys, that this is the strong et stretch of safety in the history of u.s. aviation and none of that means anything to you, does it, you and john madden are still going to get in your van -- >> and mika. >> and now like mika who doesn't understand how they stay up in the air. >> i was in a flight with my daughter about a
the ntsb has been tweeting photos. they've been forthcoming with a lot of the information, with there information. it's just amazing that it wasn't a lot worse. >> i know. amazing it's not a lot worse. you hear these stories of people being on the ground for quite some time without emergency workers. >> yeah, that's -- i want to hear more about that. because that's not the story we got initially. my impression was it had been a pretty rapid and successful response by the first...
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the ntsb came forward after the bay area station apologized for that air and the offensive names. we want to warn you that some of what you're about to hear includes incensensitive languag >> reporter: it all started add late breaking development in the noon broadcast. >> we just learned the names of the four pilots on board the flight. they are captain sum ting wong. witu lo the ntsb has confirmed these are the names of the pilots. >> reporter: the offensive names and the obvious hoax spread quickly on the internet and witness minutes the station realized the offensive error. >> we apologize for this. >> reporter: cited they had been confirmed. >> we made a mistake. >> reporter: late friday the agency released a statement said they were inact and a summer intern confirmed the name. they said actions would be taken to make sure such a serious error would not be repeated. ktvu said it should have asked for the person's name and title as well as reading the names out loud before going to air. >> the station has not commented on how it obtained the pilot names and the ntsb is not say
the ntsb came forward after the bay area station apologized for that air and the offensive names. we want to warn you that some of what you're about to hear includes incensensitive languag >> reporter: it all started add late breaking development in the noon broadcast. >> we just learned the names of the four pilots on board the flight. they are captain sum ting wong. witu lo the ntsb has confirmed these are the names of the pilots. >> reporter: the offensive names and the...
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we are monitoring the ntsb press conference in san francisco tonight. but we start with a big day in the george zimmerman trial. tonight's lead, the scene of the altercation today. with the defense getting ready to rest tomorrow, focus in the zimmerman murder trial was on the fateful moment of struggle right before mr. zimmerman killed martin. who was the aggressor. who's life was in danger. all playing to the key question, did george zimmerman have a right to self-defense to kill trayvon martin? today the defense called a forensic pathologist to the stand who supported zimmerman's claim that martin was on top. >> this indicated that the gun was not against the skin, but the clothing itself had to be 2 to 4 inches away from the body. at the time mr. martin was shot. if you lean over somebody, you will notice that the clothing tends to fall away from the chest. if instead you're lying on your back and somebody shoots you, the clothing is going to be against your chest. so that the fact that we know the clothing was two to four inches away is consistent w
we are monitoring the ntsb press conference in san francisco tonight. but we start with a big day in the george zimmerman trial. tonight's lead, the scene of the altercation today. with the defense getting ready to rest tomorrow, focus in the zimmerman murder trial was on the fateful moment of struggle right before mr. zimmerman killed martin. who was the aggressor. who's life was in danger. all playing to the key question, did george zimmerman have a right to self-defense to kill trayvon...
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thank you to ntsb chairman deborah hersman. rick perry for president. i'll tell you why that's not as weird as you might think although it is still kind of weird after this. marco! polo! this metal frame pool on rollback, you save $80! woo! fire up the savings. this 4 burner grill on rollback, you save $11. how bout all these bikes on rollback? like this mongoose adult bike, you save over $20! get more summer for your money at walmart's super summer savings event going on right now at your local walmart. ♪ and i'll never desert you ♪ ♪ i'll stand by you yeaaaah! yeah. so that's our loyalty program. you're automatically enrolled, and the longer you stay, the more rewards you get. great! oh! ♪ i'll stand by you ♪ won't let nobody hurt you ♪ isn't there a simpler way to explain the loyalty program? yes. standing by you from day one. now, that's progressive. >>> i remember august 23rd because i had felt something i never felt before in my life. an earthquake right here on the east coast in new york. well, okay, not totally true. i was sitting at
thank you to ntsb chairman deborah hersman. rick perry for president. i'll tell you why that's not as weird as you might think although it is still kind of weird after this. marco! polo! this metal frame pool on rollback, you save $80! woo! fire up the savings. this 4 burner grill on rollback, you save $11. how bout all these bikes on rollback? like this mongoose adult bike, you save over $20! get more summer for your money at walmart's super summer savings event going on right now at your...
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the head of the ntsb says the plane struck the sea wall on monday, and part of the tail was found in san francisco bay. for the first time we're hearing from the first responders who rushed into the burning aircraft. >> we kept on trying to get the crew -- they're really brave. they wanted to stay with the plane and make sure everybody was off. we kept saying, get down, get down and officer lee and i turned around and looked at the wing of the plane, gushing with fuel right next to us. we got to get out of here, get out of here, let's go. >> pictures emerged of the two chinese middle school girls killed in the crash. authorities are looking into the possibility one may have been struck to an emergency vehicle responding to the scene. >>> over 30 people still missing after a grisly train crash in quebec and the owner of the train says he is certain it was tampered with and they have evidence. "usa today" says they responded to a fire aboard the same train earlier friday night. later the tanker car somehow came loose after the operator parked it for the night. they picked up speed as t
the head of the ntsb says the plane struck the sea wall on monday, and part of the tail was found in san francisco bay. for the first time we're hearing from the first responders who rushed into the burning aircraft. >> we kept on trying to get the crew -- they're really brave. they wanted to stay with the plane and make sure everybody was off. we kept saying, get down, get down and officer lee and i turned around and looked at the wing of the plane, gushing with fuel right next to us. we...
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the ntsb says the tankers involved have a history of puncturing after accidents. >>> a federal judge in wisconsin blocked enforcement of a new line signed by governor walker who allows doctors lacking privileges for performing abortions. the judge said it had troubling lack and set a new hearing. >>> smoke and ash shot out in mexico's volcano you see right there. it's happened over the past several days prompting four u.s. airline carriers to suspend flights. >>> for your first look at business we turn to courtney reagan. >>> consumers broke out their credit cards in may. this is another sign they're optimistic about the economy. the consumer credit jumps to 8%, the biggest monthly gain in a year and shows a willingness by people to build up their balances. >>> barnes & noble ceo says they continue to lose money with nook sales, wiping out profits from traditional books. >>> 7-eleven isn't skimping on slurpees. it's shedding out the cups they hand out on july 11th. they plan to hand out 7 million free slurpees. >> i might be in line for that. >>> rex ryan runs with the bulls and all
the ntsb says the tankers involved have a history of puncturing after accidents. >>> a federal judge in wisconsin blocked enforcement of a new line signed by governor walker who allows doctors lacking privileges for performing abortions. the judge said it had troubling lack and set a new hearing. >>> smoke and ash shot out in mexico's volcano you see right there. it's happened over the past several days prompting four u.s. airline carriers to suspend flights. >>> for...
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that's the kind of thing the ntsb wants to get to the bottom of. that has been a problem in previous crashes. guys, back to you. >> all right. tom costello, thanks very much. >>> sam stein, thank you very much for being with us. >> thanks. >> eugene robinson, stay with us. up next, christine quinn has her eye on the mayor's mansion in new york city. there's a crowded field of contenders. we'll talk big apple politics in just a moment right here on "morning joe." [ tap ] [ tap ] ♪ 'cause tonight [ tap ] ♪ we'll share the same dream ♪ ♪ at the dark end of the street ♪ ♪ ♪ you and me ♪ you and me ♪ you and me ♪ where over seventy-five percent of store management started as i'm the next american success story. working for a company hourly associates. there's opportunity here. i can use walmart's education benefits to get a degree, maybe work in it, or be an engineer, helping walmart conserve energy. even today, when our store does well, i earn quarterly bonuses. when people look at me, i hope they see someone working their way up. v
that's the kind of thing the ntsb wants to get to the bottom of. that has been a problem in previous crashes. guys, back to you. >> all right. tom costello, thanks very much. >>> sam stein, thank you very much for being with us. >> thanks. >> eugene robinson, stay with us. up next, christine quinn has her eye on the mayor's mansion in new york city. there's a crowded field of contenders. we'll talk big apple politics in just a moment right here on "morning...
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>> reporter: ed, we know that the ntsb go team has been working all night working through the night continuing to work today looking at that burned out fuselage that's broken apart that's what's left of asiana flight 214. they've got the black boxes now back in washington. they flew them there overnight. they're going to be looking and analyzing the data in there, the performance of the plane, listen to the cockpit conversations, to what the pilots were saying when this all was happening. essentially trying to find out what happened, why this plane came in essentially too slow, too low, the tail hitting the seawall separating the san francisco bay from the airport and the runway and then slamming on to the runway and skidding down and lost the tail assembly, it lost landing gear before skidding off the runway. we also know this morning that the two victims, the two people killed in this crash are 16-year-old girls from china. they were part of one of two school groups from chinese middle schools who were coming here for summer camp which included visits to some of the college campuses here in
>> reporter: ed, we know that the ntsb go team has been working all night working through the night continuing to work today looking at that burned out fuselage that's broken apart that's what's left of asiana flight 214. they've got the black boxes now back in washington. they flew them there overnight. they're going to be looking and analyzing the data in there, the performance of the plane, listen to the cockpit conversations, to what the pilots were saying when this all was happening....
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from the ntsb dramatic photos of the debris from flight 214 including rocks and boulders from the seawall and this photo showing the extensive fire damage in the economy section of the plane. had passengers not escaped as quickly as they did, the number of dead and injured would have surely been higher. in seoul, some of the flight attendants have now returned home. >> translator: we're lucky to come home. there are still several colleagues left back in san francisco. it breaks my heart when i think of them. >> reporter: back on the runway, salvage crews have begun moving the wreckage to a remote location of the airfield. san francisco is hoping to repair and reopen runway left by sunday or monday and investigators looking into why the pilots of flight 214 struggled to line up properly for landing, then failed to monitor their air speed, say the flight data recorder shows the plane's engines and automated systems were working properly at the time of the crash. >> there is no anonmow lus behavior of the auto pilot, of the flight director and auto notles. >> reporter: the question, did the
from the ntsb dramatic photos of the debris from flight 214 including rocks and boulders from the seawall and this photo showing the extensive fire damage in the economy section of the plane. had passengers not escaped as quickly as they did, the number of dead and injured would have surely been higher. in seoul, some of the flight attendants have now returned home. >> translator: we're lucky to come home. there are still several colleagues left back in san francisco. it breaks my heart...
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the ntsb says the asiana pilot complained of a bright light that temporarily blinded him at about 500 feet in the air before the crash. what might that flash have been? >> well, the pilot also indicated that it may have just been a reflection from the sun. whatever it was, it was brief. and i don't think that that would have been the problem. i think the problem was that they lost their scan. the most important thing any pilot learns s in the very beginning is that air speed is absolute paramont. you have to keep total awareness of air speed. it got the behind the aircraft and they set themselves up for that. >> thanks for your insight. very good information. we do appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >>> that wraps up this hour of "weekends with alex witt" join us at noon for another edition. smart political talk up with steve kornacki and at 10:00 a.m. eastern it's melissa harris-perry. more special... with fancy feast mornings. mornings are delicious protein-rich entrées... with garden veggies and egg. each one perfectly designed... to start her day with a little love. fancy feast morni
the ntsb says the asiana pilot complained of a bright light that temporarily blinded him at about 500 feet in the air before the crash. what might that flash have been? >> well, the pilot also indicated that it may have just been a reflection from the sun. whatever it was, it was brief. and i don't think that that would have been the problem. i think the problem was that they lost their scan. the most important thing any pilot learns s in the very beginning is that air speed is absolute...